But... I got called into Denso this week to work on their HR database. The last guy working on it couldn't figure out how to do what they wanted. I had half of their needs completed in the first 45 minutes of playing with it. Dang that sucks. I keep on forgetting how to ensure job security. I'm not even all that great with DB's, I just can think like one. Oops my geek is showing.